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Dishonest Brahmins - My experience
Dishonest Brahmins - My experience
Hai Vidhya,
You are trying to link and justify my wrong action for the action of a professional.
The vadhyars are professionals doing Service and as a customer I will expect perfection in his occupation. I may not follow certain things as per my convenience.
It is similar to purchasing a product. Will you purchase a under performing car or a tv just because you are not following things in your regular routine or if you are employed will your boss tolerate your inefficiency.
We can make mistakes or sacrifice something in our personal life but we can’t afford to do it in our profession.
Please don’t take it personally
B Suresh Kumar
My humble opinion :
I think it goes both ways. I know we all expect our vadhyars to pave the way and be perfect.
But lets all face it. we gruhastas do not have that shraddha as well.
There are so many things/samskarams that we take for granted and shorten it to fit our schedules. If the same is done by vadhyars it becomes a questionable act as we want them to be devoted for the one day function that we do.
But they are used to now seeing people manipulating the shastra and samskarams to their benefit.
There are very few households who even cook shradha samayal at their homes on their own. Needless to say, the mamis who come to do the cooking, order for coffee as soon as they come and do not perform their duties with the devotion it needs.
Its just a circle. What small concessions we make, comes back many fold in some form or the other before our eyes and we do not realise that this is a reap of our own deeds at some point.
I think, we should stop criticizing or pointing fingers at others before we are 100% sure of our own acts. Its just I think the vadhyars have lost their faith in we gruhastas and have adopted the machine life as well to survive.
I personally know so many of my collegues, who cannot even take a half a day leave to perform the shradham of their ancestors. they have time from 10 - 12 before they have to leave for office.
This writeup is not intended to hurt any feelings or criticize anyone.
Thanks,
-Viidhya
Dear ALL,
Truly said . The purity is no longer there. Vadhyars perform shraddham and puniyajanam/seemandham/marriage ceremony onthe same day. It so happened during my father's thithi the vadhyar was in hurry to go to perform marriage on one occassion and in another case he din't have shraadh food as he wanted to perform thread ceremony in other place and requested to serve normal food.
Im not aganist their earning but they could very well arrange others to perform shradhh incase they are performing good ceremonies.
But they want the best of both worlds .
Again, this is my experience and views.
regards,
Prasanna
Dear friends,
I saw lot of commotion made on the DASHINA paid to the priests. First of all let me tell about the Doctors. They spend lot of money to study medicines. Now coming to VADHYARS (Priests), most of them do not even know about the sanctity of the Manthras they chant. Most of the so called priests are not even conversant with Sanskrit. Even they , in order to make money, curtail many Manthras. It has become a profession of some, without knowing the sanctity or knowledge of Manthras. A coolie earns about Rs. 200 a day, to be on higher side. I equate these priests who have no basic knowledge to a COOLIE. I have lost faith on the present day priests and started paying in Temples and Orphanages. In fact these VADHYARS or PUROHITS are taking advantages of those who practice VADHYAAYANAM since their number is less.
Kindly note that this is not a profession, a profession is one " a vocation requiring knowledge of some department of learning or science: the profession of teaching. Compare learned profession.".To be frank, the more you depend on these quacks they squeeze you especially if you are from an upper middle class family who stick on old costoms and practices.Again " PROFESSIONAL means a person who belongs to one of the professions, especially one of the learned professions" . I am giving one more definition "PROFESSION" mean Occupation, practice, or vocation requiring mastery of a complex set of knowledge and skills through formal education and/or practical experience. Every organized profession (accounting, law, medicine, etc.) is governed by its respective professional body. THIS IS ONLY MY VIEW.
Regards and Namaskarams,
P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
Thank you Bala and Krishnan,
Though I fully agree with both of you, the comparison that we are making about the 'remunaration" that our priests receive is still pitted against "other professions" (Doctors, Accountants etc.). But I think we should make a paradigm shift in thinking. Our Hindu priests (whether at the temple or at home) are not just offering a 'service', they are also upholding the Hindu dharma and keeping our culture a living one. Hence we should compare their contribution to say the Christian order. How well are their priests are looked after? What respect the Christian society extend to them? Look at the organisational structure that they have... the Pope, the Archbishops, and the rest.. the Learning institutions that they have, and the way the collect money to keep them going...
For a few thousand years we have maintained our system, our culture without the structure that, say Christianity has. But for how long, in this fast changing times? To start with we may need to at least take care of our Brahmin priests that we still have around.
Thank you.
Gopal
Hai Vidhya,
You are trying to link and justify my wrong action for the action of a professional.
The vadhyars are professionals doing Service and as a customer I will expect perfection in his occupation. I may not follow certain things as per my convenience.
It is similar to purchasing a product. Will you purchase a under performing car or a tv just because you are not following things in your regular routine or if you are employed will your boss tolerate your inefficiency.
We can make mistakes or sacrifice something in our personal life but we can’t afford to do it in our profession.
Please don’t take it personally
B Suresh Kumar
My humble opinion :
I think it goes both ways. I know we all expect our vadhyars to pave the way and be perfect.
But lets all face it. we gruhastas do not have that shraddha as well.
There are so many things/samskarams that we take for granted and shorten it to fit our schedules. If the same is done by vadhyars it becomes a questionable act as we want them to be devoted for the one day function that we do.
But they are used to now seeing people manipulating the shastra and samskarams to their benefit.
There are very few households who even cook shradha samayal at their homes on their own. Needless to say, the mamis who come to do the cooking, order for coffee as soon as they come and do not perform their duties with the devotion it needs.
Its just a circle. What small concessions we make, comes back many fold in some form or the other before our eyes and we do not realise that this is a reap of our own deeds at some point.
I think, we should stop criticizing or pointing fingers at others before we are 100% sure of our own acts. Its just I think the vadhyars have lost their faith in we gruhastas and have adopted the machine life as well to survive.
I personally know so many of my collegues, who cannot even take a half a day leave to perform the shradham of their ancestors. they have time from 10 - 12 before they have to leave for office.
This writeup is not intended to hurt any feelings or criticize anyone.
Thanks,
-Viidhya
Dear ALL,
Truly said . The purity is no longer there. Vadhyars perform shraddham and puniyajanam/seemandham/marriage ceremony onthe same day. It so happened during my father's thithi the vadhyar was in hurry to go to perform marriage on one occassion and in another case he din't have shraadh food as he wanted to perform thread ceremony in other place and requested to serve normal food.
Im not aganist their earning but they could very well arrange others to perform shradhh incase they are performing good ceremonies.
But they want the best of both worlds .
Again, this is my experience and views.
regards,
Prasanna
Dear friends,
I saw lot of commotion made on the DASHINA paid to the priests. First of all let me tell about the Doctors. They spend lot of money to study medicines. Now coming to VADHYARS (Priests), most of them do not even know about the sanctity of the Manthras they chant. Most of the so called priests are not even conversant with Sanskrit. Even they , in order to make money, curtail many Manthras. It has become a profession of some, without knowing the sanctity or knowledge of Manthras. A coolie earns about Rs. 200 a day, to be on higher side. I equate these priests who have no basic knowledge to a COOLIE. I have lost faith on the present day priests and started paying in Temples and Orphanages. In fact these VADHYARS or PUROHITS are taking advantages of those who practice VADHYAAYANAM since their number is less.
Kindly note that this is not a profession, a profession is one " a vocation requiring knowledge of some department of learning or science: the profession of teaching. Compare learned profession.".To be frank, the more you depend on these quacks they squeeze you especially if you are from an upper middle class family who stick on old costoms and practices.Again " PROFESSIONAL means a person who belongs to one of the professions, especially one of the learned professions" . I am giving one more definition "PROFESSION" mean Occupation, practice, or vocation requiring mastery of a complex set of knowledge and skills through formal education and/or practical experience. Every organized profession (accounting, law, medicine, etc.) is governed by its respective professional body. THIS IS ONLY MY VIEW.
Regards and Namaskarams,
P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN
Thank you Bala and Krishnan,
Though I fully agree with both of you, the comparison that we are making about the 'remunaration" that our priests receive is still pitted against "other professions" (Doctors, Accountants etc.). But I think we should make a paradigm shift in thinking. Our Hindu priests (whether at the temple or at home) are not just offering a 'service', they are also upholding the Hindu dharma and keeping our culture a living one. Hence we should compare their contribution to say the Christian order. How well are their priests are looked after? What respect the Christian society extend to them? Look at the organisational structure that they have... the Pope, the Archbishops, and the rest.. the Learning institutions that they have, and the way the collect money to keep them going...
For a few thousand years we have maintained our system, our culture without the structure that, say Christianity has. But for how long, in this fast changing times? To start with we may need to at least take care of our Brahmin priests that we still have around.
Thank you.
Gopal
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